Spano/Rudi

[suanj]

Nunzio arrival:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/mm.htm?bac ... splay=true

First Name: Nunzio
Last Name: Spano
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Catania
Date of Arrival: Sep 23, 1903
Age at Arrival: 35y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Sardegna
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0004


coming from Catania; joining at cousin Antonio Pezzamento ( or similar spelling) in New York
http://s6.imagestime.com/out.php/i431626_nunzio.gif

[suanj]

thanks Lee!! I cannot find Giuseppe Spanò death in Manhattan.. as a well the WWI draft registration card....
maybe with more good luck... hugs,
suanj

[wldspirit]

The child Pauline was born in California 1916, so possibly the WWI registration could be there.
Hugs,
Lee

[suanj]

Hi Lee, yes, it could be!!
Hugs,
suanj

[suanj]

I no understood 1 thing: Joseph Spano died and Laura remarried; or they divorced?

[Cavecreekmommy]

Yes, this is them. Thank You.

hi,
maybe this record is abt your ancestors in 1910 census:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Spano
Name: Joseph Spano
Age in 1910: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Lauras
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1904
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Spano 21 imm 1904
Lauras Spano 17 imm 1904
Nunzio Spano 42 brother imm 1900
Laura and Joseph married from 10 months;
the marriage record:

Rudy Laura Jun 7 1909 11567 (1909) Manhattan
Sparo Giuseppe Jun 7 1909 11567 (1909) Manhattan


Laura second marriage:
Spano Laura Apr 25 1924 12437 (1924) Manhattan
so Joseph died after 1920 census...
regards,
suanj

[Cavecreekmommy]

OM gosh, this is awesome. I tried to find him via Ellis Island but kept having trouble. I even looked up Giuseppe because I figured it was under his Italian name. Thank you so much.[


quote="suanj"]Giuseppe Spanò ( right with accent, in italian spelling) arrival and joining at Nunzio Spanò, brother, in New York
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0009
suanj[/quote]

[Cavecreekmommy]

Thank you. This means so much to me. I will try to gather my information (many of it is notes on paper) and be more precise.

Like I'm interested in knowing whether Laura Rudi was already married to Joe Spano when she came over to America. When the census was done she was only 17 when she was living with him. But then again, that probably would have made her too young to be married in 1904 if she was 17 in 1910.

Oh, and I figured out the "Mollie" is "Millie" who is really Carmella.

Great find Suanj!

As for the Nunzio manifest..that is why I stated a possibility, had you provided his birth year, or a close approximation, those searching for a manifest can narrow down the possibilities. Otherwise we are just looking for a Nunzio arriving in USA ....
wldspirit

[Cavecreekmommy]

I honestly am not sure. I assumed he died because I didn't think people divorced back then.

I no understood 1 thing: Joseph Spano died and Laura remarried; or they divorced?

[suanj]

Thank you. This means so much to me. I will try to gather my information (many of it is notes on paper) and be more precise.

Like I'm interested in knowing whether Laura Rudi was already married to Joe Spano when she came over to America. When the census was done she was only 17 when she was living with him. But then again, that probably would have made her too young to be married in 1904 if she was 17 in 1910.

Oh, and I figured out the "Mollie" is "Millie" who is really Carmella.

Great find Suanj!

As for the Nunzio manifest..that is why I stated a possibility, had you provided his birth year, or a close approximation, those searching for a manifest can narrow down the possibilities. Otherwise we are just looking for a Nunzio arriving in USA ....
wldspirit

Giuseppe and Laura married in USA
the marriage record:

Rudy Laura Jun 7 1909 11567 (1909) Manhattan
Sparo Giuseppe Jun 7 1909 11567 (1909) Manhattan


Laura second marriage:
Spano Laura Apr 25 1924 12437 (1924) Manhattan

[Michael31]

www.paginebianche.it
cognome: Pezzimenti dove: Sicilia
Spano & Spano' dove: Catania

[wldspirit]

Looking at the manifest provided by Suanj for Nunzio...there is an annotation
of numbers which refers to the naturalization process:

Verification of Arrivals prior to June 30, 1906.

As noted above, there was no Certificate of Arrival requirement for immigrants who arrived prior to June 30, 1906. Nevertheless, one will see occational naturalization verification activity associated with pre-1906 lists. The example below is from a 1903 passenger list, and displays two characteristics of verifications for pre-1906 arrivals. One is the "X" between the district number and the application number. The "X" means the applicant did not have to pay the Certificate of Arrival fee, and in this case was exempt because he arrived before 1906. The other is the reference to issuance of a "C.L ." (or C/L), which is a Certificate of Landing. A Certificate of Landing served the same purpose as a Certificate of Arrival in the naturalization process, but since the latter were only issued to those who arrived after 1906, they needed another name for certifications from pre-1906 records.

Manifest Markings

wldspirit

[wldspirit]

And here I believe is his petition for naturalization, which matches the manifest found by Suanj, and list his exact birth date and place.

LINK to Image 1

LINK 2

LINK 3

[suanj]

Oh Lee, it is wonderful! You found the petition of naturalization.... with Nunzio picture...! Wonderful!
Hugs,
suanj

[wldspirit]

Yes, but you found the manifest which provided the important clue!!
Hugs,
Lee