Can anyone here read french

[erudita74]

You're very welcome, Ellen. Yes, these records are packed with vital info, which is so great for your research. As to Sylvie's birth record, I don't believe you posted it, as I don't see it in this thread. If I've somehow missed it, please point me in the right direction.
Erudita

[EllenCatusco]

Sylvies is the second picture posted, and its not her birth. its her death. Sorry so many images to keep track of. Dont worry about that one. I think I got what I can out of that one. I'll keep searching LOL

[erudita74]

I see that I never translated Sylvie's death record. Here it is:

Dec 20, 1878 at 1:15
Silvie Justine Eleanore Imer, without a profession, died on the 19th of this month at 11 in the morning. She had been born on 21st of May 1817 in Hodimont, Province of Liege. She was living in Liege on Boulevard d”avroy #76. She had never married. She was the daughter of David Eugene Aime Imer and Anne Marie Nizet, both deceased.

The declarants: Jurdan Joseph Charlier, cousin, age 46, a bailiff, and Laurent Felix Mestreit, age 68, who was without a profession, both living in this town, who signed below

[EllenCatusco]

Hmmmm Never married and no job. Interesting. Again its Hodimont and I've looked through those records and nothing. I have been trying to figure out the letter I in french. On some documents it looks like a J . there seems to be alot of records for Imer's yet going through the indexes for actual record no name listed. Any advice on what to read in learning about spelling of names in french.?

[erudita74]

Ellen
I'm sending you a private message.
Erudita

[erudita74]

Ellen
You probably have this one, but here is one with the capital J instead of an I for the surname in the margin -top left

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=206765

I just found Sylvie in the index and her date of birth is correct:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=206765

Here's Sylvie's birth record on the right hand side. I'll translate it for you tomorrow.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=206765

[erudita74]

Ellen
Not having any success finding Victor, other than seeing him in the U.S. records. I see his wife's place of birth is given in one census as Belgium and in another as France. Also, how accurate would you say the spelling of her maiden name is? also conflicting info in U.S. records about the location of the birth of the son Charles- Belgium, Connecticut ??? I thought if we found the marriage record for Victor and his wife, we might get info about his birthplace, but can't find it.
Erudita

[erudita74]

from family search in case you want this info and haven't seen it:


Hortense Marie Georgine Modave
Spouse
Belgium, Liège, Civil Registration, 1621-1914 marriage:
19 April 1852
Liège, Liège, Belgium father:
Georges Hubert Michel Modave
mother:
Anne Marie Nizet
spouse:
Augustin Broquet
other:
Ursmer Joseph Broquet, Marie Aimée Dereuf

[EllenCatusco]

Ellen
Not having any success finding Victor, other than seeing him in the U.S. records. I see his wife's place of birth is given in one census as Belgium and in another as France. Also, how accurate would you say the spelling of her maiden name is? also conflicting info in U.S. records about the location of the birth of the son Charles- Belgium, Connecticut ??? I thought if we found the marriage record for Victor and his wife, we might get info about his birthplace, but can't find it.
Erudita

Charles was born in Belgium,because his next sibling was Gustav and he was born at sea. They are like 3 years apart. The next child was Victor Jr. He was born in Connecticut. All other siblings after him were born in NJ. As for Ceclia, Victors wife, I have no proper spelling of her last name. Its butcher on all the docs I have. The closes I have come is Grointer and I can't be sure of that.

Charles was born around 1852, 1900 census says June. Cecila says July 1835 France. 1900 census. Ii can not find a death cert on her cause I'm not sure where she moved to after Victors death. The closest I've come is Rye NY 1910 census living with daughter and son in law..but on that it states she had 1 child????

[EllenCatusco]

I just was on a site and someone posted they were also looking for a Ceclia Imer. Husband Victor. Seems like all info I have. But had same problem with last name for her. Someone suggested the spelling could be Gont(h)ier. And now I have found many with that last name in France and Belgium . Can't say its correct but worth a try.

[erudita74]

Ellen
I went through the 10 year birth indices that included 1822 and 1823 births for the towns below, which neighbor the town of Liege, but no luck. The only two towns not online are Trooz and Neupre

Saint-Nicolas, Belgium
Ans, Belgium
Grace-Hollogne, Belgium
Herstal, Belgium
Beyne-Heusay, Belgium
Seraing, Belgium
Chaudfontaine, Belgium
Awans, Belgium
Fleron, Belgium
Flemalle, Belgium
Oupeye, Belgium
Juprelle, Belgium
Trooz, Belgium
Esneux, Belgium
Neupre, Belgium

[erudita74]

Ellen
I see I never answered your question about David Imer's age in Sylvie's birth record. He was age 38 in that record in 1817, and he was age 39 in Laurent Leopold Theodore's birth record in 1818.
Erudita

[erudita74]

Ellen
Here's Victor born in Liege on Nov 26, 1822 record #1721-his name in the record Godefroid Victor Aime Imer; father David was age 43

Godefroid Victor Aime Imer in the index-Liege

November 26, 1822

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2138505

Here’s the record – (image 535 of 565)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2138505

[EllenCatusco]

Omg are you serious.. HOW, Ive looked through that year 3 times..Thank thank thank YOU. you are fabulous

[erudita74]

Hi Ellen
I think I had been through that index at least twice, but never saw the listing until earlier. Anyway, that problem is solved. Not doing so well though tracking down a marriage record for him. As best I can tell, it did not take place in the city of Liege. I've been through those indices multiple times. Unfortunately, there are no indices for the marriage publications, and there are just too many images to go page by page. If he was living in Liege at the time of his marriage somewhere else, then there should be marriage publications there.

I also gather that you never located their passenger list(s). That is another problem???

Erudita