Pinnelli Family

[mjclayton1]

A curious one here (Giovanni Pannella)...

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547

PANNELLA Giovanni UNVERIFIED Atti di Nascita (5 Sep 1877)(No. 74)(di Antonio age 31 and ROMASA Fedela).jpg

[AngelaGrace56]

Good find, Angela.

Mark, I didn’t find anything new on Domenico Pannella’s side of the family. I just answered the posters question re an 1880 Birth record pertaining to Vincenzo Clemente Pannella, the son of Domenico Pannella and Carmela Romaso which he had located, and which included an error in the Family Search Indexing; and also the 1882 Birth Record for Vincenzo Pannella which you had previously located. This also had an error in the indexing. In both cases the mother’s name was written as Carmela Romano and not Carmela Romaso (the correct surname, as written in the actual birth record). (I hope people arn’t just relying on the Family Search Indexing translations, without taking time to examine the records)
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As I said the other day, I’m just concentrating on translations at the moment, and not searching records which can, as you know, be very time consuming. I had searched for Carmela Romaso’s birth record – you will remember she was the daughter of an unknown father and of a Maria Romaso. Carmela was born circa 1861 but I didn’t see anything there for her, and searched quite a few years. However, I did locate the following two birth records. These two children were also children of an unknown fathers and a “Maria Romaso”. In both these cases Maria Romaso was the daughter of the deceased Giovanni. I wouldn’t be surprised if in all three cases it was the same Maria Romaso, even though her age recorded in 1857 and 1859 Birth Records is about five years out, or maybe they were different but related. Obviously it needs further exploring.

Birth No 21: Fedela Romaso
Registered 11 February 1857 and Baptised the same day in the Parish of Saponara

Fedela Romaso was born to Maria Romaso, 23 yo, daughter of deceased Giovanni, and to an unknown father. DOB was 11 February 1857 at 1 pm in Maria Romaso’s home.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... RG?lang=en



Birth No 47: Rosa Romaso
Registered 20 April 1859 and Baptised the same day in Saponara Parish

Rosa Romaso was born to Maria Romaso, 30 yo, daughter of the deceased Giovanni, and to an unknown father, on 18 April 1859.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... D3?lang=en



Here's what's intriguing:

1872 No 24 Antonio Pannella, son of Vincenzo Pannella and Maria Giannone marries with
Fedela Romaso, 16 yo, daughter of Maria Romaso and padre sconosciuto
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547

Did two brothers marry two sisters?

Angela

[bobtoni]

In your previous research have you found it a common occurrence where the sons are all given the same first name? In this case Vincenzo.

[AngelaGrace56]

In your previous research have you found it a common occurrence where the sons are all given the same first name? In this case Vincenzo.

Yes, absolutely. It's a tradition to honour the grand parents - the Italian naming practice is to name the first son after the paternal grandfather, and the second son after the maternal grandfather. The first daughter is named after the paternal grandmother, and the first daughter is named after the maternal grandmother. This tradition can be really helpful in Italian genealogy, and sometimes it can be confusing too for someone who is new to genealogy. eg. if several Giuseppe's with the same surname (cousins) all had first male sons within the same year or two, and all named their children Giovanni, it can take some sorting out. That's why it is so important to read the civil records and make sure everything matches up.

Edit to Add: You might find the following article re Italian Naming Practices interesting and clearer to understand than my explanation: https://www.italiangenealogy.com/articl ... ifications

Angela

[bobtoni]

As I had mentioned previously, family lore had always been that one of our great-great grandfathers had been a Catholic priest being leaving the Church. We had always believed that it was from the Pannella side of the family. Is there a way to research this. It appears from the birth records that most of the men had been farmers or laborers.
Thank you!