American Naturalization

[[raven]]

mler, I'm confused too...

and as for Casimiro...could it be Cosmo or Cosimo wife Raffaella?

I'm going to check further into this, too.

Nuccia

So, the problem is this... My Great grandpa name was Casimiro, no Cosmo, but is registred with Cosimo i dont know why. I write to my american cousin and she reply to me that the name was Casimiro.

Quando lui e venuto in America nel 1909 il suo nome era Casimiro Milza. La Nonna era' Raffaela Vollero Quando Nonno nostro si ha trasferito alle Stati Uniti, il suo passaporto diceva Casimiro Milza.

This is in Italian And i dont know when i need to start to do a translation, sorry

[[raven]]

Just spoke to New Jersey, to call back in 30 minutes as she is looking up records for me.........nice lady!!
DeLisa

Great wldspirit... Many many thanks.... i dont have word to explain what this forumist do for me... I hope that i can do the same, if no more, for her...

[wldspirit]

Ok....to sum up a long conversation...........

Here is the basic info:

Naturalization records covered in this Unioun county office are from
1904 - 1984.

Records found by name:

Alphonz? - unable to make out last letter of name.
Antonio
Rita
Ogatta
Mario
Flora
Maria Francesca

and last but not least:

Maria Raffaella Vollero
born March 14, 1889
husband Louis died on October 27, 1938
They were married on August 19, 1909 in Atrani, Salerno, Italy.
She was naturalized on Febuary 26, 1962.

children of Maria and Louis with birthdates:

Mario 4-27-1911

Alphonzo 1-7-1914

Madeline ?-11-1917

Josephine 10-18-1918

Franco 3-14-1923

Clementina 11-22-1925

Rita 1-27-1929

Anthony 1-21-1931

name? male, 1-14-1927

However, it was very hard for her to read these books as they are very old and she was unable to make out some of the writing.

If you think that this is indeed the right family, I have all the certificate numbers as well.

Regards,
DeLisa

[nuccia]

Its ok Raven, its simple enough Italian for most of us to understand..

translation (rough)

When he came to America in 1909 his name was Casimiro Milza. Grandmother was Raffaella Vollero. When our Grandfather came to the US his passport said Casimiro Milza.

Nuccia

[nuccia]

Social Security Death Index Recordinfo
about Maria Vollero
Name: Maria Vollero
SSN: 150-42-2665
Last Residence: 07206 Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 14 Mar 1889
Died: Apr 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1966 )

Following up on Wldspirits lead..

Nuccia

[wldspirit]

Need poster to confirm......something is off, but not sure what....
wldspirit

[nuccia]

I agree but I have found a possible census..I'll post anyway so that we can view...hell of a name change though.

[nuccia]

Children maybe WW2 Enlistments?


View Record Alfonso A Vollero 1914 New Jersey 27 Nov 1942 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Joseph Vollero 1909 New Jersey 25 Aug 1941 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Louis S Vollero 1912 New Jersey 4 Apr 1942 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Nicholas F Vollero 1897 New Jersey 27 Jul 1942 New Jersey New Jersey

Possible census..

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Loris Vollero
Name: Loris Vollero
[Louis Voller]
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
[abt 1882]
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Elizabeth City Ward 10, Union, New Jersey
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 841

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/6821/imagex7jn.jpg

Need to go wash my floors...

Nuccia

[[raven]]

Ok....to sum up a long conversation...........

Here is the basic info:

Naturalization records covered in this Unioun county office are from
1904 - 1984.

Records found by name:

Alphonz? - unable to make out last letter of name.
Antonio
Rita
Ogatta
Mario
Flora
Maria Francesca

and last but not least:

Maria Raffaella Vollero
born March 14, 1889
husband Louis died on October 27, 1938
They were married on August 19, 1909 in Atrani, Salerno, Italy.
She was naturalized on Febuary 26, 1962.

children of Maria and Louis with birthdates:

Mario 4-27-1911

Alphonzo 1-7-1914

Madeline ?-11-1917

Josephine 10-18-1918

Franco 3-14-1923

This is my grandpa!!!!!!

Clementina 11-22-1925

Rita 1-27-1929

Anthony 1-21-1931

name? male, 1-14-1927

I think this is Louis

However, it was very hard for her to read these books as they are very old and she was unable to make out some of the writing.

If you think that this is indeed the right family, I have all the certificate numbers as well.

Regards,
DeLisa

THIS IS MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD MANY MANY THANKS!!!!!
What i need to do now ????

[[raven]]

Children maybe WW2 Enlistments?


View Record Alfonso A Vollero 1914 New Jersey 27 Nov 1942 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Joseph Vollero 1909 New Jersey 25 Aug 1941 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Louis S Vollero 1912 New Jersey 4 Apr 1942 New Jersey New Jersey
View Record Nicholas F Vollero 1897 New Jersey 27 Jul 1942 New Jersey New Jersey

Possible manifest..

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Loris Vollero
Name: Loris Vollero
[Louis Voller]
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
[abt 1882]
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Elizabeth City Ward 10, Union, New Jersey
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 841

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/6821/imagex7jn.jpg

Need to go wash my floors...

Nuccia

Nuccia My Great grandpa is at row 24 with her sons & daughters but is missing my grandpa because he was in italy. Many Many thanks Nuccia

[wldspirit]

Here is the info for Maria Raffaella Vollero
address: 521 First Ave.
Elizabeth, New Jersey

(where she lived at time of naturalization)

Birthdate: March 14, 1889

Petition number: 33294

Alien registration number: 1 - 404 - 408

Naturalization certificate number: 8287588
Febuary 26, 1962

use the following form G-639 to send for record:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm

Buona fortuna!!
Regards,
DeLisa

[mler]

Darn, I see a problem. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Francesco, your great grandmother appears to have naturalized in 1962. At that time, your grandfather was an adult so he could not have naturalized with her. He would have had to naturalized on his own or with his father. So I don't think we're done yet.

DeLisa, is there any way to check on the great grandfather?

Looked again at the census you posted, but although Mary is listed as an alien, I can't interpret the writing for Louis. Looks like "Pa" to me (closer to "Na" than "Al".) Any thoughts?

Then the next question is if Louis naturalized, when did he do so, and is Francesco's grandfather's name on the Petition of Naturalization?

[[raven]]

Darn, I see a problem. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Your great grandmother appears to have naturalized in 1962. At that time, your grandfather was an adult so he could not have naturalized with her. He would have had to naturalized on his own or with his father.

DeLisa, is there any way to check on the great grandfather?

Looked again at the census you posted, but although Mary is listed as an alien, I can't interpret the writing for Louis. Looks like "Pa" to me (closer to "Na" than "Al". Any thoughts?

What's Mean Pa ? Other question is... what i need to do with this form ? And...what kind of service this form give to me ?
But not is a problem if my grandfather name dont appear into the census list ?

[nuccia]

It looks like PA which means he applied for naturalization but wasn't naturalized yet when the census was taken. My greatgrandfather also applied for naturalization and lived in the US from about 1909 until he passed in 1954 and I believe he still wasn't naturalized I believe due to an error in his birth records from Italy.. We need to confirm if he actually did or not..we should look for a 1930 census..

Mler brings up some very good points...

Can't remember, did you say Franco was in Italy or the USA...If he was born in 1923 then he wouldn't have been around for the 1920 census but may have been for the 1930 census..

Raven, you can try looking through this website in the meanwhile if you don't have ancestry.com..

http://www.familyoldphotos.com/6c/1930census.html

For 3 days I think its free and you can search variations along side us...the more eyes the better.

Lisa, you're amazing. Its so nice of you to go throu all this for raven. I'm sure its appreciated.

[[raven]]

Ohh I do a mistake...My grandpa is born in 1923 Sorry.
Ofcourse that i apreciate this... Is much more of any expectatives!!! I'm very very happy. Exist persons that are sweet... and Lisa is one of this