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Rosa Siri [Siro] !!
But the age doesn't match. My Rosa Siri, wife of Andrea Bazzurro, would have been born at around 1832, so would have been 64 in 1896?
But everything else fits too well, and we have another Caterina here!
I know ages can vary from record to record a bit, but 8 years?
Will check the other record again! This is fun :)
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Yes, I noticed the age discrepancy.
Ages can be very fluid. My thoughts are that because she died in another place, it is possible that whoever provided the information to the official did not know her actual age.
In fact, they may have also spelled her surname incorrectly (Siro instead of Siri)

As we find other records, it may help to pinpoint an approximate year of death for Rosa :-)

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Ha! My mistake! Rosa Siro/Siro was born around 1838! That gets us well into the range :)
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There is a big age difference between Andrea and Rosa, but it's documented!
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adelfio wrote:Birth record of Caterina Bazzurro (sister of Antonio Bazzurro)
Index#56
1870 May 26 in the town of Struppa (Church of San Martino) birth of Caterina Bazzurro daughter of Andrea Bazzurro age 52 (son deceased Carlo Bazzurro) and Rosa Siri age 32 (daughter of deceased Bernardo Siri) correction made in record toward bottom as number 1 lined out

PG LINK TO RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,354002301

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Here it is, 20 years difference, counting back their birth dates are 1818 and 1838 respectively. She could have been his second wife :-)
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I have been searching the marriage records in Montoggio (marriages USUALLY take place in bride's hometown) but have not yet found them...

I added to my earlier post that I think they may have incorrectly spelled her surname on the record, as well, since both spellings are found in Genoa :-)

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That makes sense that someone from Genoa spelled her name somewhat wrong if both variations exist! The birth record of her daughter Caterina is a more trustworthy source! :)

Oh good to know! Bride's hometown for marriages!
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Correction to posting of Rosa Siro/Siri death act...

She died on 21 February 1896 at 5:30 PM at the Ospedale di Pammatone (Hospital Pammatone - here is a link to information about this hospital)
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... rev=search

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Oh, thank you, Tessa! I really appreciate your help with the translation, I would be completely lost! I'm going to practice deciphering and translating, though, there is a tutorial here on FamilySearch!
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An excellent resource!

You may also want to look into purchasing the book by Trafford R. Cole - Italian Genealogical Records... it is the definitive guide.

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Thank you! Will get that book soon :)

There are still so many people to research, have hardly touched the grandfather's side yet (Monteverde, Di Martini), so the guide will come in handy :)

And thank you again, Marty, you have found the first Italian record that got the ball rolling!!
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So I was looking for Rosa Siri and her parents in Montoggio, Genova, but the death acts between 1866 and 1870 show a total lack of the names Siri/Siro and Granara (mother's maiden name).

Perhaps it was "an accident" that she was born there and I have to look at the place of residence again, Struppa! :)
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Checking the present Italian Phone Book (landlines) - there is one listing of the surname GRANARA :-) and no listings for Siro/Siri in the comune of Montoggio. Keep in mind that the town has a population of just over 2000.

http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs= ... =Montoggio

Maybe you would like to write to this "potential relative" and inquire of the surname in the town and its origins?

Here is the link to the original death act in the Genoa Records for 1896 (#274, parte II)
Same information. Death was reported to the official in Genoa by Signor Ispettore (Supervisor) of the hospital.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Thanks Tessa!

The Granara connection lies 200 years in the past. I think I'll first try to catch up with the other parts of the family :)

The Grassi's and Zanlunghi's will be a challenge, though, they came from Piacenza (Coli and Bobbio, especially Coli), and the records are not online yet. I am on the Italian website for Piacenza military records right now, see if I find anything :)
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just posted the link to the original death act for Rosa above.

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