Finding My Grandpas family (Cataldo)

[wellohio]

Thanks a lot Suanj.
don't you have to have a birth certificate to get on the ship and when you get off? I don't understand why or how they put another name on the manifest? I tried to search for the local church possibly could you tell me the name so I can write them?
Thanks a lot Sharon

[suanj]

Sharon, in the past was also the cumulative passport for the members of one family... the passport was relayed to Santa Nappi and surely was wrote on abt the her daughter and Donato, but ion the ship's manifest the compiler wrote just the Santa maiden name, because she was the adult.... the mother...the compiler was no interested if Donato wasd the biological son or not, just he wrote under Santa maiden name, because the passport was relayed so and Donato was a minor travelling with Santa....
I already explained that the main source hi to request the full copy of Donato Birth record in Salerno archive... you must pay the copy and then they will send to you... abt the Church.... Salerno is a town no a village... and have many churchs, I don't know:
where Donato was found and where he was baptized...
sorry,
regards,
suanj

[wellohio]

Hello,
Maybe someone knows about the history of these two people who raised my grandfather??
Anything about where they lived and maybe when he went to live with them. I'm looking for anything that can tie them together before they brought him over on the ship in 1902.
Trying to find his real parents which were not listed on the birth cert. Only fathers last name Cataldo.

John Mendell=Giovanni AMENDOLA came over in 1899
Sandello Mendell = Santa AMENDOLA nee NAPPI came over in 1902
Last place of residence was Angri, Italy.

Cataldo
Nome: Donato
Classe: 1893
Comune di nascita: Salerno

Thanks All
Sharon

[Tessa78]

Here is the "liste di leva" record for Giovanni Amendola (your John Mendell...?)
This indicates that he was born in Angri.
Perhaps you can write to the Comune of Angri for the publication of marriage banns for his marriage to Santa Nappi.

Amendola

Nome: Giovanni

Classe: 1867 (this is the year he was born)

Comune di nascita: Angri (This is his place of birth)

Full text:

Amendola Giovanni di Gaetano e Milo Anna nato il 19/1/1867 a Angri di professione

Amendola, Giovanni (your John Mendell?) was the son of Gaetano Amendola and of Anna Milo, born 19 January 1867 in Angri. No profession given.

T.

[wellohio]

Not sure where else to search for my family roots. Family needs answers to who their father was and who he came from. Any insights to further the search??

[wellohio]

Ok new question??? How would one look up vineyards in Salerno back in 1893? Supposed my grandpa s moms family owned a vineyard and the father which was a Cataldo worked at the vineyard..

Excited Sharon

[wellohio]

Help somebody !! Can't find any info on land owners back then. Where to look ? How to move forward in search, any suggestions?
Tks Sharon

[wellohio]

Hi,

I'm still stuck for what place next to look. Can't seem to locate the vineyard his mothers family had. Not sure what to do next. Their has to be a paper trail somewhere. How do people find family from back then. The living survivors have no clue. I have found more than they knew and they are amazed. Really need to find this vineyard!!!
Sharon

[suanj]

in Italy, almost all the people living in the countryside have a vineyard.... abt Cataldo family.. it was no a Cataldo family related your Donato, because Cataldo surname was the surname assigned from Registrar... and that is sure, because by military record in Salerno archive, Donato Cataldo had unknown parents...
the better way to descover something is to request the full copy of Donato Birth act in Salerno archive of State..

[wellohio]

Not sure what you mean by military record? How could there be a military record if he came to USA when he was 9 yrs old. Yes I need to get the copy of his birth and baptism and orphanage. Even if people have vineyards, are they all vineyards with workers on them? If this vineyard was big enough for that then who did the produce for and maybe a link will be there??

[adelfio]

What Suanj is trying to say is the surname Cataldo was given to him by the town official because he was a foundling send for his birth act and see if there is any other info on it.

Send this email with a photo id

Email: as-sa@beniculturali.it

Archivio di Stato di Salerno
Piazza Abate Conforti 7
84126 Salerno (SA)
Italy

attn: Imma Ascione

OGGETTO: richiesta foto copia integrale dell'atto di nascita o l’estratto completo dell’atto di nascita di Donato Cataldo

Gentilissima Signora, Gentile Signore,
Mi chiamo YOURNAME Sto facendo una ricerca sui miei antenati e ho bisogno delle informazioni dai vostri registri. I miei antenati provennero da Salerno. Vorrei sapere di più di loro.
La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per atti di nascita di queste persone:
Nome e cognome : Donato Cataldo
Luogo di nascita: Salerno
Data di nascita: 1893
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.
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Marty

[suanj]

the military record .. I mean the List of leverage... I don't know if the translation is correct, but in Italy the right name is Lista di Leva... the lIsta di leva is made by Birth recored, year for year, from Commune, so for exemple on 1910 or 1911 the communes, to list all men born in 1893, and give the list to military district... so the data on the "list of leverage" coming from the Registrars of Communes, from Birth acts directly, with name, birthdate birthplace and parent's names.... no doubts ...
if a man born on 1893 came in foreign country when 9 old, this means nothing for the registrar, because he read the Birth records of all males born in the year, and then if the man is emigrated, he make equally the list of leverage and it is military's duty to check and to cross the his name, if the migrant is untraceable...

so the infos by list of leverage are one the main source for the genealogist... because the infos are taken by the birth's act....
the full copy of his Birth act is very helpful... if you wish to know more that is the main way... abt the orphanage.. maybe he don't was put in the orphanage... given directly to Amendola family, that is possible..
best regards,
suanj

[suanj]

thanks Marty.. just a precisation:
the Salerno archive cannot relay the estratto( just the Ufficio di stato Civile can issue) but the Salerno archive can give the full copy of Donato Birth act.. when the archivist will find, the customer will pay by western union, and then will receive the copy.....
just the full copy of Donato Birth act can give a bit of light...
suanj

[wellohio]

Thanks Suanj

Maybe I should also research the Amendola family. Maybe there is some family still there that knows about his being raised by them.

Tks Sharon