Grandmother born in Argentina to Italian parents--need her birth certificate.

[missemilyanne]

Hi,
My grandmother, Teresa Massetti, was born in Argentina in 1898. Her parents arrived there in 1897 from Italy and stayed in Argentina for several years before returning to Italy. I can find zero documentation for her birth. I did find her parents' arrival in Argentina on the Cemla site, but was unable to figure out where exactly she might have been born (possibly somewhere in Buenos Aires?). Is there any way to search Argentina birth records from that era? Also, when the family returned to Italy in 1902 or so would there have been any records of their arrival, or any need to document the new child (my grandmother)? How about the parish church in their hometown-would it have any information on my grandmother, and if so, how would I go about inquiring? I know the name of the village. Since my grandmother was not born in Italy I don't know if there would be any official records regarding her. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Emily

[AngelaGrace56]

Hi,
My grandmother, Teresa Massetti, was born in Argentina in 1898. Her parents arrived there in 1897 from Italy and stayed in Argentina for several years before returning to Italy. I can find zero documentation for her birth. I did find her parents' arrival in Argentina on the Cemla site, but was unable to figure out where exactly she might have been born (possibly somewhere in Buenos Aires?). Is there any way to search Argentina birth records from that era? Also, when the family returned to Italy in 1902 or so would there have been any records of their arrival, or any need to document the new child (my grandmother)? How about the parish church in their hometown-would it have any information on my grandmother, and if so, how would I go about inquiring? I know the name of the village. Since my grandmother was not born in Italy I don't know if there would be any official records regarding her. Any ideas?
Thanks,


Emily

What were your grand mother's parents names?
What was the name of the village?

It sounds like her parents were possibily planning to be in Argentina for a short time? That being the case, a copy of your grandmother's birth record was possibily sent back to the home town of her parents in Italia.

Massetti is a popular name in Italia so you need to give us as much info as you can.

There are a lot of searchable records on line at Family Search for Argentina. Some have been indexed, but a lot haven't. Once again knowing the names of her parents and the town of her birth are important.

Angela

[mmogno]

Do you know when and where Teresa Massetti got married?

[Tessa78]

Could this be the baptism in Colonia Belgrano, Argentina?

#18 for Amalia Teresa Lesa Masetti
Dated 8 March 1897
Father: Don Angel (Angel?) Lesa, Italian, age 32
Mother: Donna Maria Masetti, Italian, age 24
Godparents: Don Bautista Lesa, Italian; and Donna Teresa Lesa, Italian; both residing in Colonia

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... AQPCL-BMCM

T.

[erudita74]

The poster stated that she found her grandmother's parents on the Cemla website arriving in 1897. I only see three with the Massetti surname who arrived in that year. One man named Domenico, age 54, who arrived there on Jan 23, 1897 aboard a ship called Pampa. He sailed from Havre, he was married, but I wouldn't know if his wife sailed with him and, if so, under what surname. The only other Massetti who arrived in 1897 were a Eugenio and Catterina both age 21, listed as married, who arrived there Nov 22, 1897. Of course, I can't say if she was his wife under her married named although this woman is listed right above him on the passenger list info. So I think we need more specific info from the poster about her grandmother's parents' names before we try to research this family further.

Erudita

MASSETTI CATTERINA 21 C ITALIANA DESCONOCIDO AGRICULTOR 1897/11/22 MONTEVIDEO GENOVA
MASSETTI EUGENIO 21 C ITALIANA DESCONOCIDO AGRICULTOR 1897/11/22 MONTEVIDEO GENOVA


MASSETTI DOMENICO 54 C ITALIANA DESCONOCIDO AGRICULTOR 1897/01/23 PAMPA HAVRE
Jan 23, 1897 on the Pampa from Havre

https://cemla.com/


Here's an additional way to search Argentina passengers if they left Italy

http://www.ciseionline.it/2012/index.asp

[cedrone]

Questa richiesta è stata messa anche su un altro forum (Genealogia Argentina su Facebook). Anche là il richiedente non ha ancora letto le ultime risposte.
Comunque le persone a cui si riferiva erano appunto Eugenio e Catterina Massetti, arrivati con la nave Montevideo.
Saluti a tutti.

[erudita74]

Questa richiesta è stata messa anche su un altro forum (Genealogia Argentina su Facebook). Anche là il richiedente non ha ancora letto le ultime risposte.
Comunque le persone a cui si riferiva erano appunto Eugenio e Catterina Massetti, arrivati con la nave Montevideo.
Saluti a tutti.

Si, la nave Montevideo dal porto di Genova

[mmogno]

Questa richiesta è stata messa anche su un altro forum (Genealogia Argentina su Facebook). Anche là il richiedente non ha ancora letto le ultime risposte.
Comunque le persone a cui si riferiva erano appunto Eugenio e Catterina Massetti, arrivati con la nave Montevideo.
Saluti a tutti.

Puoi mettere il link a questo altro forum?

[AngelaGrace56]

This looks like Teresa here. It says that she was born in the South Sandwich Islands, South America on 28 May 1898: Her mother was Caterina Croce: https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/r ... b+Property

It looks like the family returned to Italia, had another child or two and then moved to the Us. There are census records etc on line. None seem to say what part of Italia they were from, but I "think they may have"? been from somewhere in Brescia. My link disappeared. Anyways, will leave this here for now and will look for disappearing link later.

Angela

[cedrone]

Penso proprio che sia la persona cercata. Infatti il richiedente ha detto che la famiglia era tornata in Italia e ho pensato anch'io che fossero riemigrati negli Stati Uniti; perché anche se non ha detto da dove scrive, ha scritto in inglese e non è in Italia né in Argentina.
Vedremo quando leggerà il messaggio ;
vorrà sapere come avete trovato i documenti. Saluti.

[AngelaGrace56]

To help you with your search in the US:

If this is the correct family, the father Eugenio went by the name Jim Massetti in the US. He immigrated in 1902 to the US. Caterina , with Teresa (borth Sth America, and their younger daughter, Margareta, who was born in Italia in 1903, immigrated to the US in 1806. Gemma Massetti, the youngest daughter was born in California a year later in 1907.

1910 Census Record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3AMVLT-CK9

Angela

[cedrone]

Per mmogno:
Scusa, non so bene come fare a mettere il link qui.
Comunque basta entrare in Facebook;
con la funzione 'Cerca' scrivere Genealogia Argentina ;
è il primo risultato che si ottiene.
È un gruppo privato; occorre fare la richiesta di iscrizione e attendere la risposta dell'amministratore.
Saluti.

[mmogno]

@cedrone
Quindi sarebbe questo:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/47630400193

[cedrone]

Sì, confermo.

[mmogno]

Sì, confermo.