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I am looking for information about my 3x great - grandfather. His name was Giuseppe (Joseph) Santoro. He was born in 1844 somewhere in Puglia, Italy. At some point his children all took on derivations of the name including Santre, Santore and on some records Santora.

I am specifically interested in finding a birth record, travel documents, naturalization papers or any of the 1860, 1870, 1880, 1890 census’ for him.

His wife was named Maria Tosca, though different records have changed her last name as Oscaio, Josko, and Iosca. Anything found for her would be a boone too!

His children were:
William Santre 1870 - 1924
Vito Santoro 1870
Michael Santre 1878-1943
Rose Santoro 1882-1954
Concetta Santoro 1883 - 1936
James Santore 1886 - 1978

This has been a huge missing piece in our family tree for years.

Thank you to anyone who might be able to help!
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... ction=view
census 1900 seeming born on apr 1844 but on naturalization stated 10 dec 1844
arrival: 1876, Maria arrival: 1878
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The chilren all born in USA? But William stated to be born in Italy, ditto Concetta when married:
ame Luigi Tocca
Sex Male
Age 29
Birth Year (Estimated) 1873
Birthplace Italy
Marital Status Single
Race White
Father's Name Carmine
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Anna C. Defelice
Mother's Sex Female
Spouse's Name Concetta Santoro
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 19
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Spouse's Birthplace Italy
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Father's Name Guisappe
Spouse's Father's Sex Male
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Tosca
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 27 Feb 1902
Event Place Manhattan, New York City, New York, United States
Event Place (Original) Manhattan, New York
Source Details cn 2730

so Giuseppe arrived after 1876. I believe he arrived on 1889.
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Responses to the Census actually contradict that Giuseppe Santoro was ever naturalized. It's a mess.
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Here are several pertinent documents, some referenced by Suanj.

1891 marriage of [Wiliam Santre & Annie Lang]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/7595908
- indicates he was born in NYC

1902 marriage of [Luigi Iocca/Tocca & Concetta Santoro]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/8254047
- indicates she is born in Italy contradicting information on the 1900 census indicating New York
- I read the groom's name as Iocca

1933 marriage of [Michael Santre & Rose Hart]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/9904853
- looks like Michael's second marriage, as the info matches up well with the 1900 census
- adds one more to your collection of surnames for his mother: Socco
- this clears up some mystery on your other thread: in the 1933 death certificate for William Santre his mother is listed as Rose Morris, which is Rose Hart's maiden name. I had suggested that the Staten Island (Richmond County) address was Michael's. Now it seems to me that it was the deceased William's residence.

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OK, this takes the cake! Apparently the same couple gets married two times, 13 years apart. Or else, some extraordinary coincidences going on with the Santre family name (names as indexed by NYC):

1923 [Joseph Santre & Antoinette Castora]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... w/11939987

1936 [Joseph Santre & Antoinette Castoro]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... w/10089674

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The death of Maria Santre (Santoro right) nee IOSCA right italian maiden name spell:
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/4534486
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parkergambino wrote: 27 Oct 2023, 17:13 Here are several pertinent documents, some referenced by Suanj.

1891 marriage of [Wiliam Santre & Annie Lang]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/7595908
- indicates he was born in NYC

1902 marriage of [Luigi Iocca/Tocca & Concetta Santoro]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/8254047
- indicates she is born in Italy contradicting information on the 1900 census indicating New York
- I read the groom's name as Iocca

1933 marriage of [Michael Santre & Rose Hart]
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/9904853
- looks like Michael's second marriage, as the info matches up well with the 1900 census
- adds one more to your collection of surnames for his mother: Socco
- this clears up some mystery on your other thread: in the 1933 death certificate for William Santre his mother is listed as Rose Morris, which is Rose Hart's maiden name. I had suggested that the Staten Island (Richmond County) address was Michael's. Now it seems to me that it was the deceased William's residence.

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