Pignola, Potenza - Birth Record

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Re: Pignola, Potenza - Birth Record

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/572 ... 200427.pdf

newspaper article about Michael Arlotto-left column
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could Michele have changed his surname in the U.S.????

You should try to track down the birth record for the Michele in this marriage record to see if there is any kind of notation on it. I won't be able to do anything with this for several days.
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Hi Erudita - The dropbox link doesn't seem to work. Is there another way I can search for it?
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Great work Erudita

I have did a lot of researching on your Michele Arlotto (Sperduto) since this post has been on here I think Michele was a foundling and changed his name after he came here also..............I have checked numerous towns in Potenza Province 1867-1874 came up empty

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Michele Sperduto birthrecord 1870 foundling

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Adelfio! I believe you have solved the mystery! Michael was a foundling and married Maria Felicia Paciello. Birth year 1970, came over in 1895 with his wife (still listed as Sperduto). By 1915 (the earliest census record), he was listed as Arlotto.

I do not know very much about name changes in the U.S. I will have to look into what the process is for people to change their name during that time. Would that have happened at Ellis Island or in their hometown (Utica, N.Y.)? I'm sure there must be a document that connects Sperduto to Arlott.

Part of the reason for the inquiry is for Jure Sanguinis. I'm sure the Italian consulate will be strict and want to know more about his transition from Sperduto to Arlott.
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This might help us identify the transition from Sperduto to Arlotto. If he applied to a SSN in the U.S around 1940, why would he list his parents as James Arlotto and Angela Vindette? Also, if this isn't my Michael, then I wonder why there wouldn't be a record for him on 2 Sep 1869 in the Pignola record?

Social Security Application:
Name: Michael Arlotto
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1869
Birth Place: Pignola, Italy
Father: James Arlotto
Mother: Angela Vindette
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Oct 1940: Name listed as MICHAEL ARLOTTO
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Looking at marty's :-) great find in the marriage publications... AND the surname mystery :-)

The birth record I first posted for Maria in 1873 MAY BE the correct one.
The names of the parents agree with the names of the parents on the marriage record. :-)
What is different is Maria's middle name... which also could mean that this is a sibling?

BTW - the name Angela Videtta appears in the birth act for Michele Sperduto. Her name appears just before the witnesses.
Here is a POSSIBLE birth act for Michele's wife, Maria Paciello in 1873, in Pignola.

#80
Dated 10 June 1873 -
Birth on 8 June 1873 at 8 PM to...
Vincenzo Paciello, son of deceased Francesco, age 54; and to Gaetana Lattuchella, age 42, both farmers residing in Pignola.
She was given the name MARIA GIUSEPPA PACIELLO

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I am not convinced that the birth act in 1873 is the correct one. Maria Felicia was born about 1877 based on the marriage info. Most probably a sibling.

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Erudita found the marriage record give her the props
The birth record is 1870 Sept 2nd a year off which is the norm. Like T said Angela Videtta appears in the birth act for Michele Sperduto with the marriage record saying his parents not known so they did not legally recognize as their child before Michele wedding but maybe he knew his parents names and changed it later in the US

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Thanks Marty found the record right before I left for a trip. Can,t try to retrieve pdf file again until I get back.
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Here are the articles about Michael Arlotto's death...

Left column
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/vi ... a04#page=1

SEcond column with picture...
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/vi ... df9#page=1

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the link should work now. It's the column on the left. I believe it has some additional info not in the article posted by T above
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Hi Erudita - thanks so much for your help! The marriage record you found points to the connection between Sperduto and Arlotto.

It's very interesting that Angela Videtta's name on Michael's birth act, since her name is listed as his mother in Michele's Social Security Index for the U.S.. I'm confused about James Arlotto. I wonder why his name would not be included on the birth act. And, where did the Sperduto last name come from?

I found some more information about a possible James Arlotto and a wife, Angeline, in a 1910 census record from the U.S. It lists a James Arlotto born about 1842 in Italy and arriving to the U.S. in 1890. Lists his wife as Angeline. The record is from Albany, New York, which is not that far from Utica. I wonder if these were his parents. But, that would mean they came over before he did in 1890. Michele came over in 1895. Perhaps this shows why Michele didn't change his name until he arrived in the U.S.
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at the very end of the newspaper article I previously found, it lists some of Michele's siblings. Here's one of them born in 1882. I found a write up about her death which lists the same parents-Vincenzo Arlotto and Angela Videtta. I have to still get that to you. I can't find the marriage record for Vincenzo and Angela. I thought that might have some clues on it too.

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Mrs. Mary Dardano-obit

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/572 ... 206902.PDF

two more siblings of Michele

sister Rosa Arlotti

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brother Giuseppe Maria Arlotti
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The news article lists his brother as being a Joseph Arlotto. I found a Joseph Arlotto in a census record from Utica (1920) and from Albany (1910). It's the same Joseph based on the birth years and children's names. He must have moved. In the 1910 census, it lists Joseph's father as James Arlotto and Angeline. This must be Michele, Joseph, and Mary (Darnano) Arlotto's parents as well.

Joseph Arlotto lists he was born in 1880. If I can find his birth record (hopefully from Pignola), I will have more clues. His immigration year is listed as 1890 (before Michele came over). How could Michele be a founding if he has brothers and sisters with an Arlotto name?
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The Giuseppe Maria Arlotti born in 1879 is probably the Joseph born in 1880 on the census. I gave you the link to his birth record above.

I went through all the marriage indices back to 1866 and can't find a marriage of Vincenzo and Angela. I think finding their marriage record could be a clue. Now I am guessing that this couple was from some other town.

On Michele's birth record, it lists Angela as being a wetnurse. It was not uncommon for poor women to come forward to serve in that capacity to receive a stipend from their towns for their service. It could be possible that she abandoned Michele and then came forward to serve as his wetnurse. That's why I think it's important to find her marriage to Vincenzo. There could be some kind of notation on that record. We'll have to look outside of Pignola for that record, prior to the 1876 birth of Rosa that I gave you a link to above.
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