Need Help!!

[vj]

Stanley Family
What do you think? vj

- mother? widow?
- mother? b in Georgia

possible 1880 census
Name: Abraham Standlee
Home in 1880: Muddy Fork, Howard, Arkansas
Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Arkansas
Relation to head-of-household: Other

Household Members:
Name Age
Suphrona Standlee 25
Willie Standlee 9
Abraham Standlee 6
Angelina Standlee 4
Carrie Standlee 1

[rorosmom7]

Yes, This is the right family. I found the same census record in the papers that I have. But I was wondering......Does anyone see if Pasquale and Teresa stay here in the States or went back to Italy? And has anyone found Agazio's brother? And how can I find this "cousin" they were visiting? Thanks for the help. It's is greatly appreciated.

[wldspirit]

Great work VJ!!
The name Busk was either a transcription error or a mispelling on the part of the census taker, very common to find these errors in both census and manifest...have even seen them on a few WW1 draft registrations.

wldspirit

[suanj]

Hi vj, the confirmation abt Pasquale is in this ship's manifest
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0152%2ETIF
of my previous posting:"
" the same Pasquale Brescia emigrated in 1903, came again in 1914, wife Teresa in Guardavalle and joining Acacio( Agazio) son"
regards, suanj

[Esperanza]

Could this be his father? Here the surname is obviously different than that of Agazio's...

Pasquale Brescia 1903 manifest

First Name: Pasquale (born 1862)
Last Name: Brescia
Ethnicity: Italian, South
Last Place of Residence: Guardavalte
Date of Arrival: Oct 26, 1903
Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: California
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Manifest Line Number: 0018

Going to cousin Domenico Salerno's at 727 S. 7th Street... address seems awfully close to previous address I posted...

I think the surname Brescia would be pronounced as "Bresha"

According to the manifest that suanj posted, Teresa was still in Italy in 1914... I too looked for Agazio's brothers, and came up with nothing so far... well at least no one from Guardavalle...

Do you get the impression that she may have never come over? Was there any mention of Teresa ever being here in the USA?

You had also asked about the "cousin"... can look him up for you...

[Esperanza]

The Cousin.....

And how can I find this "cousin" they were visiting? Thanks for the help. It's is greatly appreciated.

Are you talking about Domenico Salerno?

Doing a quick search, 2 show up so far....

1 Salerno,Domenico Guardacalle 1903 22 1881
2 Salerno,Domenico Guardiavalle 1901 38 1863

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2802100104

This Domenico Salerno may have been detained... his manifests states that he would be joining "nobody" as his place of destination (New York) and did not provide an address.

First Name: Domenico (1863)
Last Name: Salerno
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Guardiavalle
Date of Arrival: Sep 10, 1901
Age at Arrival: 38y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Buenos Aires
Port of Departure: Cadiz
Manifest Line Number: 0009
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Will be looking for a detained list.
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This Domenico Salerno was younger... but in the PA area...

Travels with a Domenico Brusi (??) Age at Arrival: 39 (line 1)

Domenico Salerno
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Guardacalle
Date of Arrival: Feb 16, 1903
Age at Arrival: 22 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Perugia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0004

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2382020034&

Joining Nesci (??) Giovanni....
maybe this person here...
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2756030099
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[rorosmom7]

What do the X's besides the names an the manifest sheets mean? And your right, Teresa was still in Italy in 1914. But on one of the Manifest sheets it says she came over in 1914 with Pasquale. And I'm tring to see if ahe did indeed come over. And if she did, did they stay here or go back to Italy.

[vj]

manifest markings left margin
usually means they were temporarily detained
vj

[rorosmom7]

Thanks, vj. I was really confused. I need to ask a question. Do you think that IF Pasquale and Teresa did come over here. Their names got changed just like Agazio's did? Is that possible? And if it is, will we ever be able to track down where they were? Thanks again for all the help.

[wldspirit]

They may or may not have changed their names......hopefully, in the course of obtaining records on the family you will uncover further clues as to their location.
Obituaries contain great clues as to the where abouts of key family members.
And do not overlook the local parish for obtaining records.
But to help dispel a myth..Ellis Island did not change immigrant names.
They may have been mispelled, and certainly during the transcription process of these records, thousands of names have been recorded incorrectly.......the reading of the writing being somewhat difficult and all.
Many immigrants changed their names in order to assimilate....
http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson8.htm
wldspirit

[rorosmom7]

Hello, everyone! I have a question. Why would his naturalization # be on his 1906 manifest sheet since he didn't get naturalized till the 1940's?

[vj]

Manifest Markings
"Many of the notations found in the name column relate not to the name directly but to later record checks, usually in response to an inquiry by the immigrant himself (or herself). Officials annotated almost anything in the name column, probably because it usually provided some empty space where information could be added."

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and from Lou Alfano's Italian Genealogy & Culture:

Certificates of Arrival (Preliminary to Naturalization)
"More common than reentry annotations are notations related to an immigrant's first step toward naturalization. Verifying that all petitioners for naturalization were indeed legally admitted immigrants was ono eof the reforms instituted by the Basic Naturalization Act of 1906 that established the federal naturalization service. Prior to 1906, no federal entity was responsible for the administration of naturalization by the courts, and, as most genealogists know, no uniformity existed in the naturalization practice, procedure or record keeping prior to 1906. Under the 1906 statute, naturalization procedure required a step whereby the Bureau of Immigration and Naturalization checked ship manifests to verify the legal admission of every applicant for citizenship who had arrived since the passage of the act. Aliens submitted Declarations of Intention or Petitions to a naturalization court. On these forms, the immigrant named the port, date and ship of his or her arrival. Copies of the form were forwarded to the appropriate ports of entry to be checked by verification clerks who located the immigrant's arrival record among their immigration manifests. If the record was found, INS issued a Certificate of Arrival and sent it back to the naturalization court. It became clear to immigration officials that whenever a verification clerk used a specific manifest record for Certification of Arrival purposes, the clerk should annotate the record so that it could not be used to support anyone else's naturalization in the future (fraud)"

[rorosmom7]

Thanks, vj. So, I have a Certificate # from when he was naturalized. Should that be the same # that is on the Manifest sheet? And if it is suppose to be the same, and mine is different than what? What does that mean?

[rorosmom7]

I forgot to ask........Is there any way that we might be able to get his birth certificate? Thanks for all of the help!

[wldspirit]

Just curious......what is the date of the certificate that you have?
wldspirit